“Having that backbone and building yourself is what enables public figures to be built, because we don't need more people to just be creators online. We need leaders who are creating.”

Who said it, and where.

Who said “Having that backbone and building yourself is what enables public figures to be built…”? Isaac Mashman said it as a guest on The Joseph Graham Show with Joe Graham, in the episode "Unleashing Personal Brands and Entrepreneurial Journeys", published August 27, 2024.